Turnbull dismisses fossil hydrogen as “delay tactic” by coal and gas industry

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Matt Keane & Malcolm Turnbull at 2021 Smart Energy Conference in Sydney.

Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull has dismissed hydrogen produced using coal and gas as a “delaying tactic” of the fossil fuel industry in a speech that also slammed the Morrison government for lack of budget support for clean energy.

Speaking at the Smart Energy Conference in Sydney on Wednesday, Turnbull also dismissed the prospects of carbon capture and storage technologies ever becoming a viable option in the energy system, saying it was only reasonable to support green hydrogen produced using renewable energy.

“Blue hydrogen is where you get the hydrogen from fossil fuels, and you store underground or sequestrate the carbon dioxide. It is BS,” Turnbull said.

“I’m old enough to remember when we thought carbon capture and storage would work. I really am, and we were, sincere.

“Fifteen years ago, 10 years ago, even the CSIRO thought it had a chance. But it does not work, other than in some very specialised situations. So, basically, blue hydrogen is another delaying tactic by the fossil fuel sector,” Turnbull added.

Because of this, Turnbull said, hydrogen produced using renewable energy was the only viable path forward for the hydrogen industry.

“We’ve got to stop tippy-toeing around this. We’ve got renewables plus storage as the answer to electricity. As far as hydrogen is concerned, it is green hydrogen. There is no other colour that you can responsibly support,” Turnbull told the conference.

Turnbull’s comments were echoed by John Grimes, the CEO of the Smart Energy Council, who said that fossil fuel hydrogen was “a road to nowhere”. The SEC is leading the creation of a certification program for green hydrogen.

Commenting on the latest federal budget delivered on Tuesday evening, Turnbull said that the budget gave him nostalgia for his time as prime minister, given it largely incorporated clean energy initiatives originally announced by his government.

“It was a bit nostalgic for me, that budget, because the only clean energy projects that were named was Snowy 2.0 and the Tasmanian Battery of the Nation project, both of which I announced in 2017,” Turnbull said.

“Now that’s four years ago. That is an eon in the energy transition and in politics, but nothing new has been proposed or got underway. Even Battery of the Nation is still there, but there’s nothing actually being built yet.”

Turnbull said that it was crucial that governments supported the construction of new long-term energy storage projects, particularly pumped hydro energy storage projects, as being necessary to support a wider transition to low emissions energy.

Turnbull said that there needed to be more pumped hydro projects under construction, more than the Snowy 2.0 expansion and Genex’s Kidston pumped hydro project that is about to commence construction.

“That is literally all that is being built in Australia today, and we need a lot more, we need a lot more than Snowy 2.0. We need about seven or eight times Snowy 2.0 in terms of long-duration storage,” Turnbull said.

“So I was disappointed, frankly, in the budget.”

The latest federal budget offered little for the clean energy sector, with virtually no funding for new clean energy projects or electric vehicle infrastructure – other than previously announced funding for hydrogen hubs – while delivering significant new funding for new gas infrastructure and carbon capture and storage projects.

Michael Mazengarb is a Sydney-based reporter with RenewEconomy, writing on climate change, clean energy, electric vehicles and politics. Before joining RenewEconomy, Michael worked in climate and energy policy for more than a decade.

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