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Dispelling myth of energy payback of renewable energy systems

One of the many myths about renewable energy, especially solar PV, is that the life-cycle energy inputs are greater than the lifetime energy outputs.


One of the many myths propagating about renewable energy (RE) systems, especially solar photovoltaic electricity, is that the life-cycle energy inputs are greater than or comparable with the lifetime energy outputs. Is it generally true and, if not, under what special circumstances would it be reasonable?

Well, it makes for some purposes, such as industrial food production, in which energy inputs from the use of farm machinery and fertilisers are in total about ten times the somatic energy output from the food. Another example comes from the early use of solar photovoltaic (PV) modules to power human-made satellites.

In those days, before PVs were mass-produced, the energy input to manufacture them was indeed greater than their electrical energy output. At that time it made sense for that specialised purpose. However, nowadays solar modules are becoming an important energy source on Earth and they generate typically 10–25 times the energy required to manufacture them, as shown below.

It may also be reasonable to use a lot of low-grade energy in order to produce a little high-grade energy, provided the low-grade energy input is renewable and doesn’t require an expensive and energy-intensive collector system. An example is the generation of renewable electricity from the small difference in temperature between the ocean surface and deeper ocean produced by sunshine. However, in general it would be pointless to undertake coal mining, oil and gas recovery, nuclear power and any large-scale RE generation system in which life-cycle, high-grade, non-renewable, energy inputs were greater than the outputs.

By ‘life-cycle energy inputs’ I mean all the energy inputs from the mining, milling and processing of the raw materials, through the construction, operation and dismantling of the energy conversion system, to the management of the wastes. As the ‘easy’ reserves of fossil fuels and uranium are being used up, more ‘difficult’ sources are sought (eg, oil drilling in the deep ocean; mining low-grade uranium ore) and the energy inputs to these conventional energy systems are increasing.

Even more important in terms of environmental impacts is the source of the energy inputs, that is, whether it is fossil or renewable. If we wish to reduce CO2 emissions, there is little value in generating RE under circumstances where the emissions from fossil energy inputs are comparable with – or indeed greater than – the emissions saved by running the RE generator instead of a fossil fuelled generator. This is sometimes the situation with the production of biofuels.

A useful indicator of net energy generation of a technology is the energy return on investment (EROI), which is simply its lifetime energy output divided by the life-cycle energy inputs. Natural RE inputs – such as the solar energy used to grow biomass used to produce bioenergy – are not usually counted in the energy input. The bigger the EROI, the better. If the EROI is less than one, the technology is a net energy sink rather than a source.

Another useful indicator is the energy payback period, the number of years that an energy conversion system must operate in order to generate its total life-cycle energy inputs. It is equal to the lifetime of the technology in years multiplied by the ratio of energy input to energy output. Thus it is the lifetime divided by the EROI. The smaller the energy payback time, the better. For example, for a good quality solar PV system, the lifetime may be 25 years.

Then if the lifetime energy output equals 25 times the life-cycle energy input, the energy payback period is 1 year, which is being achieved now for some solar PV modules. On the other hand, if the energy output is equal to the energy input, then the energy payback period is equal to the lifetime of 25 years, which was the situation back in the 1980s when solar PV produced no net energy over its lifetime.

Actually, the calculation of the total energy input is not that simple, because decisions have to be made as to where to make a cut-off in what could be an infinite set of inputs. Do we include the energy required to make the machines that mined the raw materials that formed the energy conversion system of interest? A rigorous life-cycle analysis identifies a point where the additional inputs become negligible and cuts off the calculation there.

The whole process of calculating the life-cycle CO2 inputs becomes much easier as RE makes a bigger and bigger contribution to the national and global energy systems. Then RE conversion systems can be manufactured predominately by RE and they become RE breeders. Already some factories that make PV modules are powered either directly by rooftop PV modules or by purchases of ‘green’ electricity from a wind farm.

For the long-term there is an ambitious project proposal called the Sahara Solar Breeder in which factories would be built to manufacture silicon from the desert sand, solar PV cells from the silicon and solar power stations from the PV cells. Some of the electricity from the solar power stations would be used to expand the manufacturing of silicon and solar cells until enough electricity could be generated to supply all Africa and possibly the whole world.

The table gives approximate energy payback periods for some energy generation technologies. The range of values given for some technologies takes into account that energy outputs vary with location and fuel quality, if there is a fuel. For instance, a wind turbine at an excellent site may have an energy payback period of 3 months, but the same turbine at a moderate wind site may take 9 months to generate its energy inputs.

A silicon crystal PV module at an average US site may require 1.7 years while the same module in the sunny south-west USA may achieve 1.2 years. The short energy payback periods for wind and solar PV makes RE breeders a feasible proposition for rapid climate mitigation without producing a huge spike in GHG emissions.

Table 5.2 Energy payback periods for various technologies

Technology Energy payback period (years) Expected lifetime of technology (years) Reference
Solar PV modules 0.5–1.8




Fthenakis (2012)

Raugei et al (2012)

Wind turbines (large) 0.25–0.75 20–25 Martinez et al. (2009)
Concentrated solar thermal (CST) , parabolic trough 2 30 Desideri et al. (2013)
Nuclear (high-grade uranium) 6.5 30 Lenzen (2008)
Nuclear (low-grade uranium) 14 30 Lenzen (2008)
Coal: conventional 1–2 30 Raugei et al. (2012)
Coal with CCS ? ? ?

Notes: (a) Results for RE technologies vary sensitively with location.
(b) Some of the above results are contested in the scholarly literature on the basis of method.


This article is an edited extract from Mark Diesendorf’s new book, Sustainable Energy Solutions for Climate Change, published in Australia and New Zealand by UNSW Press in December 2013; to be published overseas by Earthscan in April 2014. The references are given in the book.



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  1. suthnsun 7 years ago

    Very interesting article, and the chart answers in short form 3 questions that have been hard to get at.
    Low grade uranium nuclear – why bother, hardly any high grade left anyway
    Coal with CCS – technology at a dead end after 20+ years, no one knows.
    Coal – surprisingly poor energy payback, no wonder no one is bothering new build (phew!)

    • Concerned 7 years ago

      Except in China,Germany,India etc.


      • suthnsun 7 years ago

        did not get the whole link there Concerned, so don’t know the particular article you are referring to. I watched a little of the video with Marc Morano. I presume you are not ‘concerned’ about these chaps not understanding the process of earth’s positive energy imbalance and its ramifications.
        In any case, if you think they understood what they were talking about, it still won’t change the fact that renewables are now cheaper than all other new build generation. Other articles on RE have discussed slashing the rate of coal newbuilds including China, India, Germany..

          • Concerned 7 years ago

            Sorry that facts upset you.You made a comment that nobody is building any new coal fired power stations.That is nonsense ,as any basic research shows.

          • JonathanMaddox 6 years ago

            Some new coal-fired power stations were “locked in” years before construction was complete. The comment doesn’t say “nobody is building any new coal fired power stations”, what it says is “slashing the rate of coal newbuilds”. Which is true, despite a few builds continuing to this day, as any basic research shows.

  2. Coaltopia 7 years ago

    Might need a new solar inverter after 10-15 years… but that tech will get better too methinks.

    • jeffhre 7 years ago

      Since the system will reproduce it’s embedded energy in 14 to 18 months. And yes an inverter would potentially need to be replaced within 120 to 180 months, well – then, ummm…

    • Brian Donovan 5 years ago

      Inverters already last more like 25 years once the bad electrolytic caps were eliminated. Special long life electrolytic caps and ceramic caps have now eliminate that 15 year limit in new inverters. Micro inverter have 25 year guarantees, some string inverters do too.

  3. Steve Gill 7 years ago

    Para six confuses me. Surely you don’t mean:  “If we wish to reduce CO2 emissions, there is little value in generating RE under circumstances where the emissions from fossil energy inputs are comparable with – or indeed greater than – the emissions saved by running the RE generator instead of a fossil fuelled generator”. I think net saving’s better than net emitting.

    • RobS 7 years ago

      The paragraph is correct. The point being made is that some “renewable energy” requires significant fossil fuel inputs, most prominent is the diesel and fertilizer required to produce biofuel. These embodied fossil fuels aer often ignored when looking at the emissions of a renewable source versus a fossil fuel but to do so is misleading. Ie if the embodied fossil fuels used to make a litre of biofuel produce 10kg of CO2 and the direct savings from using the litre of biofuel is only 8kg of CO2 then using the biofuel actually increases emissions slightly.

      • Brian Donovan 5 years ago

        But crop based biofuels are now recognized as a bad idea by everyone but the corn industry and the gov they contribute to.

        Waste to fuels is using stuff we already used, that’s what makes sense.

  4. Frosty Wooldridge 6 years ago

    If you give any country endless energy supplies, it’s like giving a mad teenager who loves video war games a machine gun in the middle of a 100,000 spectator soccer game. He will mow down everyone without realizing his own folly. To give Australia endless renewable energy means Australia will continue growing beyond its arable land capacity, its water capacity, its quality of life, its standard of living, its connection to the natural world, and worst, it will overwhelm every other creature. Endless energy insures endless growth, which, in the end guarantees collapse. Ask any 450 pound obese person how he or she likes their endless growth. Frosty Wooldridge, 6 continent world bicycle traveler

    If we don’t halt population growth with justice and compassion, it will be done for us by nature, brutally and without pity – and will leave a ravaged world. ~Nobel Laureate Dr. Henry W. Kendall

    “The raging monster upon the land is population growth. In its presence, sustainability is but a fragile theoretical construct. To say, as many do, that the difficulties of nations are not due to people, but to poor ideology and land-use management is sophistic.” Harvard scholar and biologist E.O. Wilson

  5. Brian Donovan 5 years ago

    Wish you had the references to your numbers.

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