How a $12k electric car could be future of US urban market

Climate Progress

In what may be a prelude of the future urban market, a Detroit-based manufacturer named EcoV Electric is offering an electric vehicle for just under $12,000.

The EcoV is geared towards urban driving — lower speed commutes over relatively short distances — and can go 25 to 40 miles on a charge. It charges by plugging into a standard wall socket and the company pegs the cost of the electricity for a recharge at a mere 50 cents. Thanks to those reduced fuel and maintenance costs, and the $11,999 price tag, they also estimate the car should pay for itself within a year. Safety-wise the EcoV is built with a roll cage frame, and the lack of a large gasoline-powered engine block actually makes electric cars safer in head-on collisions in general.

Obviously, these features also come with limitations most American car customers aren’t used to. The key is realizing they’re well-geared towards two specific emerging markets.

One is urban commuters: people who live in denser areas and use their cars for short trips to work or the grocery store, while relying on rented cars, air travel, or public transportation for longer trips. Traffic congestion resulted in an estimated 56 billion pounds of carbon pollution in 2012, so turning all that commuting over to electric power could come with climate benefits. Furthermore, demonstration projectsare already showing how digital technology and the smart grid can be used by individuals to control when and how their electric vehicles are charged, which cuts down on their electricity bills.

The other market is delivery businesses that rely on urban fleets. Again, it’s a job well-suited to vehicles with the EcoV’s characteristics: the daily routes and range needs are known and fixed, and the vehicles return to the same spot every night which makes re-charging much easier. EcoV seems to realize its potential in this area, as it’s designed the car to come in several iterations, including four-passenger vehicles, six-passenger vehicles, pickup trucks, delivery trucks, and more.

Fleets of small electric vehicles for urban driving are also possible investments for cab companies and other car-sharing arrangements, which again can cut down on the need for car ownership amongst dense populations and also cut carbon emissions. Further in the future, there’s also the possibility of combining those electric vehicles with something like Google’s driverless car technology and Uber’s smartphone-based cab-hailing service, as Matt Yglesias recently described.

As CleanTechnica explains, EcoV’s use of a low-capital-intensive business model — the reverse of what you usually see in auto-manufacturing — is what enabled the company hit such a low price tag. “A capital-intensive business model involves purchasing factory machinery with a high initial cost, and these machines have to pay for themselves for them to make financial sense.” Further, “a high production volume is required for them to pay for themselves, and electric vehicle production volume (in general) is currently low, making it more difficult for factory machinery to pay for itself.”

Being Detroit-based, EcoV also shows one potential strategy U.S. automakers specifically could use to keep building on their recovery by moving even further into the expanding electric vehicle market.

Source: Climate Progress. Reproduced with permission.

Comments

20 responses to “How a $12k electric car could be future of US urban market”

  1. Coaltopia Avatar
    Coaltopia

    If it could go 60-80km/h it’d probably be a winner. 40km/h is too slow for commuting.

    1. coomadoug Avatar
      coomadoug

      Coaltopia
      You need to consider the fact that the conditions in which this idea will flourish has a speed limit of 60 kmh. In fact in the big cities of Asia, you dont do those kinds of speeds. Petrol cars in that invironment are a joke and a rediculous concept.
      My recent experiance with this facility in Bangkok was an eye opener.

      1. wideEyedPupil Avatar
        wideEyedPupil

        Yes, Indian cities are heavily polluted as are Chinese cities. Congestion is a constant right across the cities not just in a CBD. Many use motorbikes, scooters and push bikes for this reason. Electric bikes and three wheelers are a massive growth market in China already. In countries like India with intermittent electrical power supply and heavy reliance on diesel gennies the added advantage of reserve power at home at night is a welcome bonus.

  2. David Martin Avatar
    David Martin

    How can anyone driving fewer than 75K miles/year (3000 gallons @25mpg @ $4/gal.) save enough from gas savings to pay for a new car costing $12K in one year? For an urban vehicle in private hands about 10 years would seem like a rough estimate for payback.

    1. coomadoug Avatar
      coomadoug

      David
      Your sums are ok. However, a kilowatt hour of energy sold to you as petrol costs about $1.60 in Australia. By the time you convert petrol to mechanical energy in a petrol car engine, a Kwh of mechanical energy costs about 8 dollars.
      On the other hand, plug in the electric car and convert to mechanical energy, the Kwh costs about 40 cents.
      The energy comes to your house, where ever you want it. You dont have to drive down town to buy it. If you have solar, you can make your own. Also, arrangements in the future will enable many clever technological things to come hand in hand with this device. The car can power your house.
      Energy providers of the future, if they are to survive, will need to be in your car and smart switching.

      1. David Martin Avatar
        David Martin

        It is not possible to pay for a $12K vehicle in one year with anything more than the cost savings amount you would otherwise be spending to achieve the same usage, no matter how the conversion of Kwh costs to petrol costs compare. If it were as high as $8 per gallon for fuel at only 25mpg it still would take 37,500 miles per year to save $12K, even if you paid nothing for your electric to run the vehicle. And with a private party running a city use only vehicle for 20 miles or less per day, that would only be about one fifth of that usage, thus saving, even with free electricity, no more than $2400/year over petrol usage in an internal combustion vehicle. For the manufacturer to claim the $12K cost would be saved in one year is completely fallacious. A taxi company might pay for the vehicle in one year at those petrol costs, running three 8 hour shifts, 7 days/ week, but I certainly couldn’t. And in my part of the U.S. I drive my 2001 Honda Insight hybrid on fuel currently costing $3.07 per gallon and get 50mpg, so I have even more trouble with those ‘savings’ figures.

        1. coomadoug Avatar
          coomadoug

          David
          I am talking litres here. Your gallon of petrol costs 8 dollars a gallon in most countries. By the time you consider the energy conversion factor differences you should use 32 dollars a gallon for your calculations.
          When you do that you come up close to the 11 grand in fuel

      2. David Martin Avatar
        David Martin

        I do agree with your statements about the practicality of an electric vehicle. I have an 8.3KW solar system on my home. My brother has a 10K system and powers his Nissan Leaf from it. I live 25 miles from town and cannot justify the cost of purchasing an EV with sufficient speed and range to drive there and back vs. my 50mpg Honda hybrid, even with my electricity being free. If I lived in the city a lower speed lesser range less expensive EV might make sense. But my issue is solely with the manufacturer claim that the payback period of one year would provide sufficient savings to pay for the car. That is flat out wrong.

        1. JonathanMaddox Avatar
          JonathanMaddox

          Most cars are used for less than two hours out of twenty-four. Some are driven for much longer hours. The payback will definitely be justified in those cases where the hours on the road match the battery capacity. For your use-case, and the efficient hybrid you already drive, not so much.

        2. wideEyedPupil Avatar
          wideEyedPupil

          That might include sale of the old car at second hand prices? You have to compare total cost of ownership.

          1. David Martin Avatar
            David Martin

            The stated manufacturers claim of saving enough in one year to pay for the new car with the savings can’t have included the proceeds from the sale of ones old car since there may or may not BE an old car. My only point here is that virtually NO purchaser of this vehicle will drive it enough to save $12K in fuel and maintenance costs in 1 year when compared to the dollar cost of fuel and normal maintenance when driving a typical fossil-fueled vehicle. It might be accurate in some cases to say that the fuel and maintenance costs savings in one year would be high enough on this vehicle to pay for the extra cost DIFFERENCE between buying it and buying some other less expensive vehicle powered by fossil fuel but there is so much indeterminate in that statement that it is difficult to judge the accuracy of it. Without knowing the purchase price of the other vehicle, its fuel consumption, the price of fuel, and the number of miles to be driven in any individual comparison, no such conclusion can be drawn. All in all as stated in the original article it is still not correct.

      3. JonathanMaddox Avatar
        JonathanMaddox

        When burned a litre of petrol yields roughly 35 MJ or about 9.7 KWh of thermal energy, not just 1 KWh. Depending on the efficiency of your engine and your driving style, you may get between two and five KWh of mechanical work out of that litre of petrol. If used for electrical generation or to run a hybrid vehicle, it’s close to the top end of that range.

        Battery-electric vehicles are definitely more energy-efficient than old fashioned ICE vehicles, but not quite as cheap as you imply 🙂

      4. David Edmunds Avatar
        David Edmunds

        I don’t think this is right. the energy content of a litre of petrol is around 10KwHrs. So the cost of the energy is about the same for both petrol and electricity.
        However, electric motors usually operate at efficiencies in excess of 90% while the internal combustion engines in cars operate at around 25%.
        Therefore it costs around 70% less to pay for the energy to run an electric car.
        In addition, the potential environmental cost of generating the electricity will approach zero, but there are not too many gains to be made in the environmental costs of both running and supplying fuel for internal combustion engines.

    2. coomadoug Avatar
      coomadoug

      david
      Your petrol car, driving the time and place that this is designed for, will give you less then 10 mile to the gallon and at times worse then that because it wont be able to go where you need. Then if you get there, there will be no place to park it. We are talking about a situation where it can take 20 minuteds to go a mile in a normal sedan. We are talking about places only a lunatic drives a normal petrol car in the future.
      These little cars I was using last week, seat four people and we climb aboard and go where the sedan wont even bother trying.
      Nobody is going to turn their nose up at a car that wont pay for itself in economic fuel use in side a year. We dont expect it to.
      If we go on a road that suits your big petrol guzzler, then we use an electric car that costs 7% as much to run, doesnt pollute and isnt noisy. Just as a bonus, it out performs the petrol in just about everything. Then when I am at home it will provide my home electricity for nothing having stored the energy from solar and using a smartswitching power swap arrangement with the energy provider..

  3. Alistair Spong Avatar
    Alistair Spong

    It is possible to build DIY electric cars for about this cost.

    1. Matthew11 Avatar
      Matthew11

      Less if you are looking for urban speeds and sitances only with say a max speed at 45 mph, you could do it for 8 grand. or less depending on how much you want to do youself, including taxes, say 3 grand or less for a really good frame vehicle to convert and you are still cheaper For the price of the EcoV you can build a highway capable EV with a 60+ mile range. Double the price and you could build a EV that compares to a Leaf or an i-MiEV. Double that again and for 40k you can build a Model S without some of the fancy bells and whistles. Then again, this all assumes that you will assemble it youself and how many people do you know that assemble their own vehicles, many don’t even know how to change their oil or check fluid levels anymore.

  4. coomadoug Avatar
    coomadoug

    This is a winner. I was In Bangkok for a few weeks. I stayed at a simple motel for 700 Thai baht a night..(24 dollars.) Part of the deal was free transport up and back from town markets and railway station all day. They used electric vehicles. It is so so convenient and suitable for high density city travel. Also in that dangerous road environment, it is so safe.
    I checked out the plug in charger. 25 amps and 50 volt. I asked a few questions and seems a 6 hour charge does the car all day. So this little car is up and down to town on the 3km journey all day for about 4 dollars. Cheaper then that I think.

    1. JonathanMaddox Avatar
      JonathanMaddox

      Wow. The future is already here. Or at least in Bangkok, which is not far 🙂

  5. coomadoug Avatar
    coomadoug

    How long has a litre of petrol given you 9.7 kwh
    The numbers are wrong

  6. Miles Harding Avatar
    Miles Harding

    There is always a fly in the ointment. In this case, it’s the fact that an electric car doesn’t reduce urban congestion!
    If anything, a $12K battery vehicle could actually make things worse by replacing walk or bike trips. However, it is still far batter than 300HP of heavy armor being used for an assault on the local supermarket or inserting the junior troops into combat on Monday morning.

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