Battery storage insiders tepid on Tesla’s new battery system

PV Magazine

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Tesla’s Powerwall has captured headlines, but have left some in the battery storage sector scratching their heads. Tesla

Tesla presented its new battery power-storage system last week in California. The sensational low price of the system does not yet have the competition shaking in their boots; not officially, at least. To the contrary, whether the device can deliver on all that it promises is questionable.

The fireworks the Tesla announcement triggered has been characterized by some as being media hype. That goes for Germany, too, where the combination of on-grid PV systems with battery storage is comparatively advanced.

Elon Musk presented his energy revolution and the launch of his Powerwall consumer battery-based storage system in California with a healthy dose of humor. And Tesla has an image of being a foundry of disruptive innovations. Ultimately, the kicker was supposed to be the price of the system, which works out around US$350 per kilowatt-hour ($350/kWh). The price is about one-third of current retail prices in Germany.

Nevertheless, power storage system providers are not worried. Some see a positive effect in the announcement.

“The high profile of the strong Tesla brand could finally get the energy market moving,” says Andreas Piepenbrink, CEO of the provider E3DC, one of Germany’s storage market leaders. He still has his doubts as to whether the battery can be a success. A number of market players hold views similar to Piepenbrink’s and are rubbing their eyes at what they see as all of the unjustified hubbub in the press.

The list price is for the battery alone and not for the entire storage system. For instance, it does not include the power electronics and energy management. Thus, Tesla is not really competing with system providers, but rather with battery manufacturers.

“Now Tesla will have to prove that they are better at making batteries than competitors like Panasonic and Samsung. That’s going to be interesting,” says Piepenbrink.

This is particularly true in light of the fact that $350/kWh is the wholesale price installers will be charged and not, as Tesla may have implied, a retail price.

“These are standard purchase prices for system providers that Tesla is now somewhat deceptively repackaging as consumer prices,” said Piepenbrink.

“In the automotive industry, such prices are not unheard of,” says Olaf Wollersheim, a project lead for the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology’s (KIT) Management Competence E program. In other words, you can already buy batteries from brand-name manufacturers in the price-range Tesla has announced.

It is not yet clear what exactly customers will get for the price, because Tesla has not released enough information about the performance of the battery. For example, it has not specified the cycle life, which determines the service life of the battery. Furthermore, this is not fixed but depends on the depth of discharge, the discharge performance and other factors.

Tesla writes that it uses the same cells in the stationary storage systems as it does in its cars. Although the Tesla car has a cycle life of less than 500 cycles, that is sufficient to drive 200,000 kilometers or more without a battery replacement. However, batteries for stationary storage systems need a cycle life of at least 4,000 cycles to last for 20 years, charging and discharging once a day.

Nevertheless, it is conceivable that the auto manufacturer is using the same cells, says KIT expert Wollersheim. The lower the useful capacity in comparison to the rated capacity, the higher the cycle life. In terms of price, a battery with 7,000 kilowatt-hours of usable capacity and 2,000 cycles is worth just as much as a battery with 3,500 kilowatt-hours of usable capacity and 4,000 cycles.

But Tesla has not provided the usable capacity yet. It is not possible at this stage, therefore, to evaluate the price with regards to the usable battery capacity.

Charging and discharging performance is yet another factor that producers can tune to increase cycle stability. This factor increases in inverse proportion to power output. Tesla has it indicated a power output of two kilowatts in the specifications for the battery. Many of the systems available on the market allow higher discharge capacities, but a reasonable power value depends on the intended application. That has to be taken into account in any price comparison.

Now the ball is in Tesla’s court to bring a system to market that can stand up to the competition. Editors at pv magazine have already queried Tesla for the missing specifications.

Source: PV Magazine. Reproduced with permission.

Comments

6 responses to “Battery storage insiders tepid on Tesla’s new battery system”

  1. Jacob Avatar
    Jacob

    Actually the kicker is the huge battery Musk unveiled that night, which is priced at $250/kwh.

    1. Miles Harding Avatar
      Miles Harding

      I agree. this is the big news.
      Also the LCOE is something like 2 cents per kwh, making this a low cost option for solar buffering.

      I think that PV magazine is assuming that the Tesla cells are like laptop cells, but the 8 year warranty on the daily cycling powerwall battery indicates that they are confident that the battery will go 2500 or more cycles.

      I look forward to seeing some credible competition for Tesla.

  2. Ken Dyer Avatar
    Ken Dyer

    When you have billion dollar industries competing on product, there is only one way the price can go and that is DOWN.

  3. Robin_Harrison Avatar
    Robin_Harrison

    Elon Musk has a reputation for seriously delivering on his promises. No reason to believe he would change his ways.

  4. RobS Avatar
    RobS

    The latest announcement that they already have 38,000 pre orders in less than a week might wipe the smugness off the competitors face. Hisotrically the only promise Elon hasn’t kept or exceeded has been roll out timeframes, doubt or dismiss him on costs or technology superiority at their peril.

  5. 小杜 (xiao du) Avatar
    小杜 (xiao du)

    Tesla will have to prove that they are better at making batteries than competitors like Panasonic

    Um, really?

    Panasonic makes the batteries for Tesla, and the Tesla Gigafactory is a Panasonic/Tesla co-funded project.

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